[She almost responds, then realises what conversation they've ended up having and switches the filter.]

Things can be pretty rough here, and he...doesn't exactly ask for help. [A fondly exasperated smile.] Doesn't want to be a burden.

But...I think he's okay. Not perfect, but okay. [He told her he was better, and she believed him.] And I told him - it's okay to lean on us, if he has to.